Using AI to Track Your Health: Helpful or Just More Anxiety?

Jeremy: Welcome to Brobots This is the podcast that tries to help you be a better human by being smarter about the way you use your technology. A couple of stories we're going talk to you about today revolve around our obsession with on longevity and and trying to optimize our lifestyle. And are we going too far with it? Is it is it impacting our mental health and maybe the rest of our health negatively? in addition to that, maybe the answer is more AI tracking. But it's interesting as the trends are showing that people are kind of tired of being tied to these devices and are starting to pull away from them. We're gonna sort of contrast those stories, but we have some personal observations that are sort of triggering this as something we want to talk about. I literally just two hours ago got done participating in a stress test because I had a a scare, not not my own scare, by the way, just scared a family scare when it comes to heart health. a family member close to me had had a diagnosis that turned out to be nothing, but it was enough to scare me into thinking, what if there's something wrong with me? Started looking at the family tree. You know, grandpa died at fifty-four from heart disease. Starting to experience new random chest pains and stressful situations, and things just lined up in a way that scared me enough to go, hey doc, I'm scared. Look, can we take a look? spoiler, he basically laughed in my face and said, Dude, you're perfectly healthy, but sure, let's run some tests to to entertain you and and make sure that that you're not worried about nothing. So more to come on that. But I literally was doing the stress test today and I'm being hooked up to these little electrode things and I'm gonna

Jason: Iodes.

Jeremy: stand on the treadmill and we're gonna climb up the hill and see how long I can go before I wanna die. And not as long as I would have liked. I I would have liked to have been more physically fit for this test today, but we're working on it. but I I was having the thought while I was there is like this feels this feels like the test they've been doing for fifty years. Like are are we not in a position where we can do a better test than this to really know what's going on with my heart, but you know, I'm not an expert in these things.

Jason: Well and it's funny because I most of the time the tests that they use as early warning signals for these are EKGs. And the EKG technology is from the eighteen hundreds. like it's not even just that it's not this century, it's not this millennium. Like

Jeremy: Ha ha ha.

Jason: it's a long time ago. I guess nineteen hundreds would be not anywho, you know.

Jeremy: Yeah, long ass time ago.

Jason: a long ass time ago. And so I had a similar scare in 2021, I had to go have surgery, but my distal bicep tended back on. And because I was over 45, they wanted me to go have a EKG done to make sure my heart was healthy enough for anesthesia. So, you know, I go to see a cardiologist and I'm there in front of them, and I have white coat syndrome and you know, among a thousand other mental coping tactics.

Jeremy: Okay, I'm dumb. What is Whitecoat syndrome?

Jason: white coat syndrome is fear of doctors.

Jeremy: okay.

Jason: Yeah. Yeah. So I I do, like I like get super happy around them and say, everything's fine and inside I went. So they plug me into an EKG, run it once, and the person's like, Hmm, hang on, moves the diodes around, test it again. Hmm, hang on, moves it around, test the diodes again. Hang on, gets another doctor to come in and look at it, move the diodes around, test it again. And they're like, Well, we got some bad news for you. Sometime in the last 30 years, you have had a major heart attack that you didn't know about. Or maybe you did know about it. I'm like, well, it's not my medical chart and I don't remember it. So no. They Well, we call these widowmakers because the scarring that's there on your left ventricle is such that the next time you have any kind of cardiac issue, you're gone. It triggered me to go through and lose a bunch of weight, do a bunch of different techniques to make these things happen. But after I got my it cleared me for surgery, so get my destinice tendon. So I get my distal bicep 10 and put back on. Go back and I do the stress test. And I am at a 4.2 mile per hour pace with a 24 degree incline. So like I'm jogging uphill.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: And I was there for like two minutes. And I'm like, do you guys have enough? And they're like, yeah, we get we got enough five minutes ago. Like you're you're totally fine. We just want to see how far you would go. I'm like, okay. So I get off

Jeremy: Ha ha ha.

Jason: this thing and they're like, Yeah. I mean, most likely the EKG was a false positive. I'm like, Hmm. How often does that happen? And you start using the Googles, and it's a little over 50% of the time when the EKG tells you something is wrong, the technology from the 1800s,

Jeremy: Mm-hmm.

Jason: it's not accurate. So how many times is it failing the other way, also? Like is it

Jeremy: Right.

Jason: is it only failing on the side of err of detecting a false positive, or is it also failing on the error side of detecting a false negative? And we've relied on this technology for so long that we don't question it. And you know, you've got Apple watches out there that you have little EKG functions on them. There's things you can buy that are like your own little personal EKGs that have like two to six diodes on them. And really what it does is it sends an electrical impulse through one side. Like if you put one finger on one diode and one finger on another, it sends it this way up and through your body and through your heart and your chest and back down to the other side. Yes, this is very old technology. This is fucking Frankenstein shit. Like it's not, it's this is not AI. This is not modern data. And you look at the ways that we actually track these things for a lot of folks, it's your fitness trackers. And the fitness trackers themselves have a lot of variation as to how good they are. And you start taking all these data sets to try to understand it. And it's enough to stress you out to give you a heart attack. Like there's so much there. So

Jeremy: And and this is like A concern over a specific condition, right? I mean, the this article

Jason: Yeah.

Jeremy: that we were reading, doctors are seeing more and more people becoming so obsessed with living longer that it wrecks their actual life. It's called longevity fixation syndrome. Not an official medical diagnosis yet, but real enough that Swiss addiction clinics say that they're treating it more and more. People start out just trying to be healthy, but it turns into hours of blood tests, tracking supplements, extreme diets every single day, sometimes 18 hours a day. One clinic founder says that there was a guy who struggled with disorder disordered eating so badly that when he would go out to a restaurant, any one meal he would see on the menu, he was doing the math on how much is this going to shorten my life to eat this one meal.

Jason: I think that I'm a candidate for this clinic. because I do this shit. Like I start companies that do this shit.

Jeremy: Ha ha ha ha.

Jason: So I can't like talk trash about people doing this. Like, yeah, like I and I'm doing it 'cause I'm trying to make myself more physically capable and competent and everything else. And I'm certainly not doing it so I can live forever or live like a lot longer, but I want the life that I have to actually include things like me being able to wipe my own butt. So I I'm gonna because I've already been told by, you know, my family that if that happens, you will go to a home. There will there will be no place for you here. You will you will have to go find yourself somewhere else to live. Not even we'll get you a nurse. Just like, no, if we get to the point where you can't wipe your own ass, you're fucking out of here. Okay.

Jeremy: There there was a health coach we interviewed on a previous iteration of the show and he said like that was always the goal, was like I don't ever want to get

Jason: Yeah.

Jeremy: to a point where someone else has to wipe my ass. So that's why I work every day to make sure that this machine keeps running as well as it possibly can.

Jason: Yeah. Like that's a legit thing, right? Like people people are worried about that. Like they don't

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: want to be in a position where they become dependent for basic necessities and basic needs of life. And the only way that you get to that point is you die before things in your body break down. And unfortunately, everybody's body will break down. Everybody's body will fail them. Everybody's body will stop working. Your mind probably will too at some point. And You know, the idea of trying to stave these things off as long as possible to try to feel as good as you can with what life you have, that's not it's not new. We've been trying to do it forever. You know, we we did a lot of it with escapism, trying to go through and use alcohol and we call them tinctures and potions and things like that. And really what they did is they just got you fucked up. So you didn't care so much about shit. And your pain stopped because you were drunk or high.

Jeremy: Yeah, yeah.

Jason: So I mean, this is not a new thing. The difference

Jeremy: No, but I

Jason: is is that the quality of the signals coming in towards you and the access to the signals that you have

Jeremy: Mm-hmm.

Jason: is a lot maybe not better, but it's a lot higher signal rate and the noise on those things is actually high as well. So now you have to try to sort through these things to make sense. And it, you know, one of the most deadly things you can give to an addict is is hope. You know. So yeah.

Jeremy: Well a and I think where I was going with that I think is is along a similar path is the inundation of influencers in the wellness industry and how we are hammered, at least I am in my feed because of the kind of stuff I've looked at for a few years, of like optimize this, do this. If you just do this for 15 minutes a day and if you, you know, add it all up, it's 87 hours in one day of all the little things that if you just did them every day, you might add six minutes to your life. You know, it it's been bad enough. Now there's so many AI influencers that that aren't even real. You know, I there's so many ads for this Tai Chi workout or this program that you can do, and it's all just fake people promoting that if you just do this seven minute workout in a month, you're gonna drop 50 pounds and look great. And it's just bullshit and it's all playing on our fears of I'm gonna die after someone else wipes my ass for twenty years and you know the the terror of that will cause people to throw money at whatever robot told them that that program is the one they need to avoid that outcome.

Jason: Yep. Yeah, because we don't we don't want to be helpless. We don't wanna have to rely on other people to keep ourselves alive. We don't wanna have to be a burden on those that are around us. Those are all legitimate fears.

Jeremy: But I also think we all we just do the math. We don't wanna die. And so we we pretend that if I just if I'm just healthier, that I'll I'll just put that off indefinitely.

Jason: Yeah. Well I and I'm not sure that people don't want to die all the time. I I think they want longevity, I think they want length, I think they want better quality of life. And yes, I think there's moments where they're like, I want to keep going. But they don't want to keep going if it's a Lazarus man effect, where like, you know, you're just consistently in this age of wret wretched decay, and you're just this Hulk of mass drooling and shitting all over yourself while hoping somebody comes along and feeds you. Like this is This is this the fear of the human condition. And like none of us are gonna live, you know, for two hundred years. Like it's not gonna happen. Like it's nice to think that there's vampires and shit like that that can do these kinds of things

Jeremy: Mm-hmm.

Jason: and everything else, but it's just not real. Or maybe it is and we don't know it, but I don't

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: fucking care. It's not affecting my life right now, so why the fuck am I worried about it?

Jeremy: Right.

Jason: yeah, like there's there's just a select group of things that you can actually focus your energy on and try on, and we tend to be very selfish. So we focus those things on ourselves. And if something gives us a signal that lets me say, I can make self better, okay. I'm gonna try that. And sometimes, you know, there's varying degrees of people's willingness to try things and put themselves at risk. And a lot of people these days, they're willing to try more because, like you said, there's influencers saying if you just do blah di blah di blah, then this can happen. And I mean, there's a new a new drug that just came out called TOFA. it's Tetrodys what is it? Tetradesyloxy2furic acid. And

Jeremy: Easy for you to say.

Jason: yeah, exactly. Not at all. I had to read it poorly. but basically what it does is it's another class of weight loss drugs and it activates enzymes in your cells to make your cells burn energy more faster. And the typical weight loss on it after being on it for about a month, this might be bullshit, they said is around 17 to 18 percent in obese rats. Well, couple that with a GOP one and you're talking about a huge amount of weight loss. But the nice part about the TOFA piece is the TOFA doesn't eat your muscle tissue along the way. That's the problem with GLP-1

Jeremy: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jason: So I am a biohacker. I've used GLP-1s I've tried them. They gave me stomach problems, everything else. Now this TOFA's out. And as soon as I saw that come out, I got online and Googled, like where the fuck can I find this shit?

Jeremy: Mm-hmm.

Jason: Where can I find this rat drug? Like in my head, I'm like, you know what? Maybe you should wait for an FDA trial. Maybe

Jeremy: Maybe one.

Jason: maybe we should wait for somebody else to do a study. But there's plenty of things. Yeah.

Jeremy: Or maybe try it on some people before we just go straight to selling it in the market.

Jason: Right. And I guarantee you there are people that have already tried this shit.

Jeremy: sure.

Jason: And you know, and but that's the thing, is like there's so many things that come towards us, and there's so many things that Want to make these pieces happen. And so much of it is around vanity and and wanting to preserve self. And you have to ask yourself, you know, am I doing this because I'm trying to make myself better? Am I trying to be around longer for my friends, my family? And at the end of the day, no, it's it's purely selfish. Like it's just you wanting to stick around to be you and suck up more air, you know, turn carbon into shit. so somebody else can my ass. Like that's kind of the whole point of it. Yeah.

Jeremy: Yeah. Well and and a lot of it is is just a self esteem thing, right? Like if if you don't like the the meat suit you're walking around in, you want to try to find a way to change it because you've also been told that if you change it into the socially acceptable version of that meat suit, then you'll be healthier, happier, and you'll you know, all of your dreams will come true. And I think many, many, many people have gotten to that point and gone like, Yeah, I feel a little better, but I still hate myself. Yeah.

Jason: Yeah. So I did a social experiment on myself yesterday. I went to the YMCA and I have my contrast therapy routine there, which is I go sit in there very hot sauna and then I jump in the cold pool and then I sit in the steam room and then jump in the cool pool and then jump in the hot tub. And I told myself, all right, you know what I'm not gonna do? I'm not gonna suck my gut in when I'm sitting in the sauna in the steam

Jeremy: Mm-hmm.

Jason: room. I'm just gonna let it flop and hang out and like not worry about it.

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: Holy shit was that hard. Like,

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: psychologically, my brain is like, tuck that gut back, fat boy. Nobody wants

Jeremy: Yeah, nobody wants to see this.

Jason: to see your your disgusting beef body. Like, come on.

Jeremy: I was thinking the same thing today when I was waiting for the dog. I'm hooked up to all these things. I'm sitting on the bed with my shirt off. And they kept like not closing the curtain all the way. And I'm like, do everyone else a favor. Come on, close that thing. Nobody wants to see this.

Jason: Right. Right. You know, and that's the thing, is like i I know that sucking my gut in is bad for me. Like it actually causes a cortisol spike and it causes all kinds of other problems and it causes delayed onset of or it causes poor shallow breathing, which causes all kinds of things like tuberculosis and bronchitis and pneumonia and all kinds of cardiovascular symptoms, but also it raises blood pressure, like there's a thousand things that it does and it's because I had, you know, a great grandmother Called me fat when I was little and then I moved around a lot and a bunch of kids called me fat also. So I became very subconscious of it. And unfortunately the reality is is that I am fat. Like I it doesn't matter. I I've I've been down to six percent body fat and still had a gut. Like I how the fuck does that work? Like you could see like muscles and everything moving, but I still had a pooch because that's who I am. That's who I am. Yeah.

Jeremy: Because genetics. Because as it turns out, that's how you're built. And it's okay.

Jason: Yeah. Right, it is. And and that's the thing, is getting to the point where inside your own head you're like, It's okay. That's hard

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: because we got conditioned so young to believe that it wasn't. And now, you know, as you get older and become more adults, those things just become more and more ingrained into part of your personality. And then it's really, really hard to dislodge those things. And then when you do dislodge them, people are like, What the fuck's wrong with you? That's not how you act and behave And it's like, Well, okay.

Jeremy: Yeah. Well and again back to the noise. The noise of everything in culture says if you don't look this way then you're broken and there's something wrong with you

Jason: Yeah.

Jeremy: and you'll always be a a miserable sack. So

Jason: Which I probably will. It's probably not untrue, but that that probably has Yeah. Yeah.

Jeremy: You and me both. You and me both. so this obsession with on with on with longevity, trying to take better care of ourselves. a healthcare investor argues that AI's biggest opportunity isn't chatbots or paperwork. It's catching diseases early by reading tiny patterns in your body that doctors and patients can't see on their own. He calls it anticipatory medicine using AI to catch problems like cancer or heart disease before they cause real damage instead of reacting after someone already gets sick. Right now, most healthcare AI money goes toward boring stuff like scheduling and note-taking. He thinks the next wave of AI is acting more like a smoke detector for your body. So, I mean, this sort of speaks to, you know, we want to track, we want to know, we want to be plugged in and be hyper-aware of all the little things so that we can optimize. But we're also sick of our screens, we're sick of sitting on the couch looking at them, we're we're worn out mentally by tracking. tracking every little detail. So can devices like the watches we wear, the rings that we wear, other higher end technology that's maybe not the the consumer level, can all of that help do a lot of that tracking for you so that maybe you're checking in less often to see patterns and trends that you can then change your behavior to reach a more desired outcome.

Jason: Yeah, the the amount of signal data that's presented to you via wearables, which are, you know, essentially either skin based. So they're either using an optical mechanism to go through and look at your pulse and your pulse ox and your blood and have those things move across. or there there's other external systems out there that can like read your temperature and everything else. Like there's a company that makes a a software package that goes on televisions. Instead of hospitals on Samsung TVs that has an infrared camera that can see when people walk by, do these people have fevers? Like there there's a thousand little things like that, right? But when it comes to the human body, you actually have to have a good understanding of what the human body does and how it's going to react to those different types of stimuli and different types of actions. And that requires blood and DNA and like more testing than you're going to get from a regular wearable. But Things they were getting more and more entrenched into the blood side of things. Like continuous glucose monitors are blood samplers. Like they're subcutaneous. So they're they're like just below the skin, but it's still drawing blood out of you and trying to figure out what your blood is doing. Those things are going to become more and more prevalent, and they're going to become more and more hooked into you, and you're going to become less and less aware of it. Like my gut says eventually there's just going to be a thing where it's like, all right, well, once a week, go by and take the little thing and put your finger on it and it Pricks your finger, draws a drop of blood, and it says, hmm, all right, well, here's here's what I'm seeing. As opposed to what I do today, which is go to a phlebotomist and they take, you know, a pint of blood across like eight vials and then send it off to Quest Diagnostics for, you know, twelve hundred dollars and testing every quarter. It it's one of these things where it's gonna have to get better. And I I really think the thing that is gonna pick this thing up and and move it forward in that kind of way, It's something that we're all used to seeing commercials for anyways, especially men of our age. And that's erectile dysfunction because we are that age and it's very easy to go after us and say, you know, your dick doesn't work and that's a problem. And that whole market should really be relabeled as dongevity. Like it it should. It should be the dongevity

Jeremy: Ha ha ha ha ha!

Jason: market. Like How long can you keep it going for? Like that's what the entire thing should be.

Jeremy: Well, that's what we're gonna name the supplement that we're going to start selling on this very program.

Jason: Exactly. You're right. Dongevity. Because

Jeremy: Ha ha ha.

Jason: that that plays on that huge fear, right? Like, your wiener doesn't work? That sucks. ladies aren't gonna want you. You're no longer desirable. You're not a real man because you can't get an interaction. you can't have an orgasm. That means blah blah blah blah blah. Like I'm inundated with that. And and hair. Like I wish the AI would take a picture and like you know what? This guy has enough hair. He probably he's not

Jeremy: He's not he's not in our target demo. We can move on. Yeah.

Jason: Right. Exactly. Yeah. But I mean, I also see things for different types of mental conditions, PTSD, testosterone replacement therapy, like all these things that are typical age-related problems. And if you're inundated enough with it, even if you don't have a problem, you're probably gonna start thinking, Do I have this problem?

Jeremy: Yeah.

Jason: Because the signal that's being sent to you is you should. Pay attention to this because you might have a problem. Well, eventually you can convince yourself you have a problem, even if you don't have a problem, if everything keeps telling you you have a problem. And

Jeremy: Yeah, Facebook has fully diagnosed me with ADHD. Like it it I it heard me talk about it like once and like everything I see is like here's five ways to know you have it, just like you And

Jason: yeah.

Jeremy: so I'm I'm pretty convinced, at least from Dr. Facebook, that I have AD ADHD.

Jason: Yeah, yeah. yeah, Dr. Facebook's an interesting one because I I also have ADHD and autism and like nine kinds of cancer and

Jeremy: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Jason: I erectile dysfunction, hair loss. I'm clearly bald, yes, yes.

Jeremy: Sure, yeah. And you're bald, clearly. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason: And also, you know, I I have to be on all of the weight loss drugs

Jeremy: yeah.

Jason: and I like it's just it's so much signal of you're not good enough. And They're vanity things. Like, if my dick doesn't work, does that break the world? Like it are I'm a fifty-one year old fucking vasectomyized man. No. No. I let's

Jeremy: You're not using it anymore anyways. I mean, let's be real

Jason: yeah, let's let's let's be real. It it's not like it it's running out there doing a whole lot of extra work

Jeremy: Ha ha ha.

Jason: these days. you know, I and it it's hard because it's it's not just It for a long time, you know, it was women being inundated with this stuff and like seeing magazines and seeing unrealistic images of beauty and expectations and everything else. And the it hasn't gone down for women at all. In fact, it's it's gone up and it's gotten worse. And men are coming from the position where, well, it didn't really happen to us that often to like catching up on par with where women are at today, as far as that signal goes. And we were never conditioned for it. And we didn't have these things going through. So you're seeing a lot of people like freak out and panic about this from the male perspective because they don't know what to do with it because they never learned to just not pay attention. So it's easier to get our attention. And we wind up trying to run with it and it doesn't bode well for us.

Jeremy: Well and a lot of times it plays on the fears that we have anyways, as people like am I going to be able to protect and provide for my family? Am I gonna be around like

Jason: Will I have longevity?

Jeremy: yeah, will I stick around and and be able to do the thing, the the one job I have here to to keep everybody, you know, alive and fed and happy. So it's you know, men are are a simple target demographic to to go after if you're one of these companies or one of these fake wellness influencers.

Jason: Yeah, yeah. I mean, 'cause we assume that people have good intentions when they're going to do some of the stuff, but they're just trying to pick your pocket. I mean a huge amount of my Facebook feed is all people talking about, you know, mental health and relationship ordering and disordering pieces and having menopausal partners, like all these things and it's like I don't know that any of this is helpful. Like it just adds stress and makes me more concerned and worried. So I don't know that the AI is gonna make it any better. I think the AI is gonna exploit that. Because the people that are in charge of it are gonna fucking do that. So if I give it all my medical information, all my wearable history, it's gonna be like, Yeah, you are fat.

Jeremy: Well and it's interesting. We talked a little bit a few weeks ago about how I've started really doing that heavily where you know once a week I'd take all the snapshots from my Garmin data and I dump it in and I say, How are we doing? And for the most part everything's been an upward trend. But I had an interesting moment with it just this week because this week followed a a huge party that we threw to celebrate, you know, like my wedding anniversary and in a lot of things and and you were there, which was lovely. And

Jason: Yeah.

Jeremy: That also meant

Jason: Thanks for having us.

Jeremy: that I drank way more over the course of four days than I have in months. I did not track shit that I put in my mouth. I ate whatever I wanted, slept like ass, like it was, you know, like in terms of taking care of myself with the normal things I've been trying to like build back into my routine, all of them off the rails and completely drowning in alcohol. And so when it was time for my weekly check-in, before I gave it all the data, I was like, just so you know. This is what the last few days have been like. And it was like, yeah, no, that adds up. Your your HRV took a shit. Like you're, you know, everything looks bad.

Jason: That tracks.

Jeremy: Like, but you know, small price to pay for a hell of a week. And and it was funny too, because I I basically was like, you know, I'm I'm afraid that I'm falling into my usual pattern. Like I went gung-ho for like really like a few solid weeks. I've been tracking literally everything that I've eaten. I've been trying to like get back to the gym. I'm doing all these little things. But the minute I gave myself a weekend off, I was like, well, I mean, I can wait. I mean, the kids are going back to school in a couple of weeks. I don't need to get serious about this. And so I told it, I told the AI, like, I'm afraid I'm falling into my pattern where I'm gonna just sit on the couch again and and not get get back on board. And again, damn the robots for having empathy for humans. It was like, dude, you had a great weekend. It's okay to blow things off for a week and Get back at it tomorrow. Like, no big deal. Like, don't beat yourself up. Don't fall into this. Don't like propel yourself into this pattern. Like, you're aware of it. It's something you know that you do. Cool. Get through today, get through this weekend, whatever. But like you're gonna get back there. So just do it. And it was just like, again, I needed the robot to just pat me on the head and go, like, it's gonna be okay, dummy. You you can get through this. It's just one week of your life.

Jason: And it's funny because it's more empathetic towards you than you are. Like you're we're fucking terrible to our inner selves. We talk shit about our inner selves all the time. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, like it's it's nice that it does that. But

Jeremy: Yeah, it was literally like I it was like I don't like the way you're framing this. What if you thought of it this way? And I was like, Okay, thanks, Doc. I I feel better about this now. Yeah.

Jason: at the same time, I Honestly, I I wonder how long until the glasses with the AA on there, you know, telling you what to do, you know, with something like a pulsetto built into it automatically, where it automatically sits there and starts registering your vagus nerve and seeing when things are changing. When you're tensing up when you're getting getting tense and it just goes, Let me give you some drugs to make you feel better and it just injects them automatically and you're like,

Jeremy: Right.

Jason: yeah, right. Like that's I think where this is actually heading. Because

Jeremy: Mm-hmm.

Jason: Ultimately speaking, if these meat suits that we're in can't be productive, then we're a drain on society. So it's gonna try to figure out a way to make as productive as possible and then shuffle us off. You know, and I it's not it's not long until the robots can do more shit than we can do. I mean, there's that cockroach that just fucking

Jeremy: Yes.

Jason: They cyborg cockroach that can run around now and and inject people in hazardous scenarios that can pilot it towards somebody, you know, like if you're caught under a building, like

Jeremy: Yeah, it's crazy this story. Australian scientists built a real live cockroach with tiny cameras and mini syringes strapped to them, nicknamed Paraborgs. Again, they send swarms of them crawling into collapsed buildings after earthquakes to find trapped people and give them basic emergency drugs before human rescuers can get there. they used real cockroaches instead of robots because bugs are tougher, more agile, and need way less power. This is the part that's weird. So researchers implant a tiny electrode so a human can steer the cockroach, but

Jason: Mm-hmm.

Jeremy: a human still controls any actual medical medical. decision. intest the cockroaches nailed. Close-up injections 95% of the time. So we're we've we have the ability to remote control a live cockroach and have it deliver medicine in a collapsed building.

Jason: Mm-hmm.

Jeremy: That's nuts to me. That's that's science fiction shit.

Jason: Yeah, so they can control a cockroach. How long is it until they can control

Jeremy: I'm I'm sure now.

Jason: I don't know about that. Maybe. Or a little more complex.

Jeremy: Little bit.

Jason: Yeah. I mean, but if you get us out of our frontal lobes and yeah, like you were essentially a limbic system. You can plug us in and, you know, gangly control this shit, which is all

Jeremy: Ha ha ha.

Jason: that we're doing inside of our heads.

Jeremy: Maybe I'll finally become a dancer.

Jason: Maybe. That would be wonderful. Yeah. Hold me closer, time to dance

Jeremy: Again, nobody wants to see that. all right. Well, I mean I

Jason: I kinda wanna see that.

Jeremy: so it just interesting stuff. weird that these headlines hit at the same time that that I go in for a little heart check today and you know the the doctor was basically laughing at me for for wanting to get my heart checked out. But you know, so far so good. Everything looks good, waiting for the blood test to to come back. But The the things that are opening up in terms of the ability to track, again, the you know, the watch that you turned me on to tells me all the time like, hey buddy, you're too stressed out, go chill out for a minute, or hey, your heart rate's kinda high. You might want to relax for a minute. Like the little notifications that it gives me are just the right nudges in the right direction and the the information that it tracks that I can then dump into a machine that's smarter than me and have it tell me, keep it up, champ, you're doing a great job is enough to keep

Jason: Yeah.

Jeremy: me going.

Jason: And if you can keep your stress down and you can keep your routines up and keep your cardiovascular system working well, you'll have great longevity.

Jeremy: That's and that's really what it's all about. All

Jason: That's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. It's all about the hokey pokey.

Jeremy: right. Well order your 30 day supply of Dongevity at our website, brobot stop me. Not really. Not yet. All right, that's gonna

Jason: Yet.

Jeremy: do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. If you enjoyed this, share it with somebody who might also enjoy it. You can do that with the links at our website, brobots.me, and we'll see you back there Monday morning for the next episode. Thanks for listening.

Jason: Thanks everyone, bye-bye.