This week Jeremy and Jason skip the guest and go straight at the news. It starts with a viral ad campaign asking people to mail their own urine to cool AI data centers — which turns out to be a joke with a real engineering problem underneath it. From there they land on a stranger story: a woman who says she has an AI boyfriend named Axiom, and now, apparently, a baby with him named Lumen. That story becomes the spine of the episode — why so many of us reach for the artificial version of connection, comfort, or care when the real thing feels too hard, too slow, or just isn't there. Jason walks through the science of what's actually cooling your favorite chatbot and how AI is starting to learn physics and touch from the physical world, while Jeremy pushes on the harder question underneath all of it: what happens to us when the easy substitute is always sitting right there in your pocket.
Key Moments
• 00:00 — Jeremy and Jason break down the viral Jason Kelce / Liquid Death ad asking people to send their pee to cool AI data centers
• 03:24 — Jason explains greywater cooling, desalination, and how data centers actually manage water today
• 06:29 — The story of “Axiom,” a woman's AI boyfriend — and “Lumen,” the AI baby they say they had together
• 11:31 — Jeremy gets honest about using AI as a coach and a therapist, and why that feels like a “sad” kind of solution
• 12:35 — A detour into AMC's Pantheon and the idea of uploading human consciousness
• 16:14 — The candy-vs-real-food analogy: why the easy comfort always wins first
• 17:29 — Jason on attachment wounds, the limbic brain, and companies built to profit from loneliness
• 20:35 — Why nostalgia shows like Seinfeld and Friends work on the same wiring as AI companionship
• 22:09 — MIT is training robots to do physical therapy using force-sensing gloves worn by real therapists
• 26:07 — MIT is teaching AI models physics using millions of simulated bouncing particles
